Short political rant…

August 12, 2009

I’ve been reading about the Tea Party Patriots this morning.  Aside from the fact that anything even loosely associated with Rush Limbaugh makes me want to hurl, I’m fascinated by the hypocrisy of this neo-conservative political joke.  Here’s why:

dissent is patriotic

This image is on the TPP wiki page and was taken at an event earlier this year in Nashville.  I find the hypocrisy of this photo overwhelming.  I really love how a mere year ago, anyone who dissented was considered a disloyal American and traitor – yet, now that Duhbya is out of office and we have a Democrat as prez?  Oh yeah, that dissent thing?  So patriotic.

How fucking ridiculous.  Protesting socialized medicine?  Yah you TPP peeps really have the moral highground there, dontcha?  Spray painting swastikas on the homes of liberal congressmen because – SHOCK – they want to help the disadvantaged get equal health care that’s really putting the “ass” in “classy.”

It’s another case of crazy right wingnuts gone amok and an attempt by the rich to stay rich and not giving a damn about anyone else in their communities past themselves.  Yucky.

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5 Responses to “Short political rant…”

  1. TeaPartyPatriot Says:

    Actually, many of the people protesting at these Tea Parties are the same sort of conservative that is, was, and always will be against the Iraq war specifically and intervention in the affairs of another country in general.

    We believe firmly in constitutionally limited government but many, including myself, are socially liberal. Please do not lump us in with the God & Country type conservatives that stood behind the Iraq war in the name of 9/11. We simply believe that the Government should have a very limited role in the lives of its citizens. We don’t want to see more government. Many of us give generously to causes that we support that in turn provide social services.

    Last, it was Congressman Ron Paul (R- Tex) who started the Tea Party movement to protest a government, under GWB!!, that he viewed as growing too large (hello Homeland Security) and out of control.

    Oh, one more thing. I am neither crazy or a wingnut but if it makes you feel better to label me as such then go ahead.

    • adorkablegrrl Says:

      Fair enough of a reply – it’s not my intention to lump people together because in any sort of a socio-political movement there are enough people who diverge from the “norm” of the “group” (either positively or negatively) that it’s not fair to do as such.

      My post is, of course, in the general black/white, Democrat/Republican, good/evil tense, which can be dangerous to speak in because it does make one look stupid when exceptions to the rule present themselves in an eloquent and reasonable manner such as yourself. 🙂

      The bottom line is that I fully believe (and always have) that dissent is patriotic; AND, regardless of what your personal ideology is I support your right to have it and express it, so long as you’re using intelligence to do so (and, even sometimes when you are not – the general you, that is.) I think that differing opinions and ideas are what make political discourse interesting and that it takes coming up with a lot of ideas that suck to reach even one half-way decent one.

      I can’t help that I find it ironic that a conservative political movement (no matter how many socially liberal or moderately conservative people are involved in it) is now – in 2009 – preaching about dissent being patriotic; because, as it is I remember not to long ago when those people on the C or R side of the fence who are more moderate or socially liberal didn’t really say very much when those NOT so reasonable in your party told me that I was un-American for exercising my right to dissent… But, that’s just me. I’m glad to hear that not all TTPP believers are crazy or wingnuts… thanks for your comment!

      Kate

  2. TeaPartyPatriot Says:

    Unfortunately that (generalizing) is exactly what your blog post did. Politics is not an exercise in black and white thinking. There are many, many, many shades of gray. FYI, I belong to no party. I simply consider myself a conservative.

    By your reply it seems that you are again lumping the God & Country neo-cons/nationalists with libertarians and people who are moderate Republicans for fiscal reasons. I don’t see how you can equate a protest against taxes and growing government with a protest against the Iraq war. Again, it’s the whole distinction between a true conservative and a nationalist/God & Country type. They are not the same.

    It seems the crux of your blog post has to do with the idea of dissent being patriotic (it is) and your issue with the context in which that statement is being used. In one case it’s being used against you. In the other case it’s being used to state a claim with which you disagree.

    “I can’t help that I find it ironic that a conservative political movement (no matter how many socially liberal or moderately conservative people are involved in it) is now – in 2009 – preaching about dissent being patriotic; because, as it is I remember not to long ago when those people on the C or R side of the fence who are more moderate or socially liberal didn’t really say very much when those NOT so reasonable in your party told me that I was un-American for exercising my right to dissent”

    This statement tells me that you are still lumping us all together. Tsk, tsk. Don’t let Fox news be your only source of information on what conservatives think.

    • adorkablegrrl Says:

      Fox News isn’t my source of anything. That’s kind of insulting.

      The bottom line is I remember clearly when people who identified themselves as Conservatives or Republicans either told me I was un-American or didn’t stand up and say that the people perpetrating those very strong sentiments were wrong or wrong to be doing as such in public.

      And, honestly if you (the general you, not you specifically) identify with a political party or ideology you are lumping YOURSELF in with all the other people who identify in the same way, even though your personal stances may be widely divergent.

      I’m not against people who are “fiscally conservative” regardless of if they identify as a conservative, moderate liberal, Middle Democrat or Moderate Republican or anything else — I understand fiscal conservatism and while I do not agree with it I get it… you know?

      Whereas I do not understand people who object to liberal policies just because they are termed “liberal.” I don’t do that with those termed “conservative” policies – I take a great deal of time to consider and evaluate information to be an informed participant in the political process… And, the idea that having socialized medicine is bad because it’s “socialism” (it isn’t) is really stupid to me, honestly. There are so many people in our country who are sick and dying and uncared for because the health insurance corporate structure is a greedy glut of wealthy people who want to get wealthier… it’s morally wrong, if you ask me. We’re supposed to be living in a first world country, yet we have disease and famine and poverty like that of a third world country… WTF?

      And, honestly in reading some of the TPP tactics (branding a congressman in favor of socialized medicine a nazi? Come on! That’s so extreme and wrong… violence? Really?) turn me off to listening to even the reasonable political practitioners within that movement.

      That and I have some personal opinions about Ron Paul and Rush Limbaugh (the two big TPP celeb supporters) that don’t do you guys any favors either in my book… neither here nor there.

      In the end that blog post is my opinion which I’m entitled to – I am trying to be open minded and listen to opinions other than my own in striving towards healthy political discourse — but, it is still my opinion.

      Cheers,
      K

      • adorkablegrrl Says:

        I also don’t get people who mix religion and politics. As an agnostic Methodist-Catholic-Jew it scares the shit out of me when people start preaching God from public office…


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